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		<title>Comment on Ladies and gentlemen: your infinitely cunning Democratic Party by Thomas Nephew</title>
		<link>http://newsrackblog.com/2012/03/14/ladies-and-gentlemen-your-infinitely-cunning-democratic-party/#comment-11995</link>
		<dc:creator>Thomas Nephew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Mar 2012 04:27:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Nell!  ...I got a little lost and then a little depressed trying to figure out what the hell I was talking about with "arguable counterproof by counterexample" in my comment about your post.  But I'm over that now!  -- Have to tell you, they don't just think they can pull this, they may be right.  At least, I had the distinct feeling I was one of maybe 2 or 3 people in the room who saw any kind of irony to the Romneycare comment, or any kind of revisionism to the Medicare one.  

PS: drop by &lt;a href="http://mococivilrights.wordpress.com" rel="nofollow"&gt;http://mococivilrights.wordpress.com&lt;/a&gt;, that's where I do more writing -- though I try to keep it dry and level there.  Also sometimes some worthwhile video (&lt;a href="http://www.youtube.com/user/mococivilrights" rel="nofollow"&gt;http://www.youtube.com/user/mococivilrights?ob=0&#38;feature=results_main&lt;/a&gt;).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Nell!  &#8230;I got a little lost and then a little depressed trying to figure out what the hell I was talking about with &#8220;arguable counterproof by counterexample&#8221; in my comment about your post.  But I&#8217;m over that now!  &#8212; Have to tell you, they don&#8217;t just think they can pull this, they may be right.  At least, I had the distinct feeling I was one of maybe 2 or 3 people in the room who saw any kind of irony to the Romneycare comment, or any kind of revisionism to the Medicare one.  </p>
<p>PS: drop by <a href="http://mococivilrights.wordpress.com" rel="nofollow">http://mococivilrights.wordpress.com</a>, that&#8217;s where I do more writing &#8212; though I try to keep it dry and level there.  Also sometimes some worthwhile video (<a href="http://www.youtube.com/user/mococivilrights" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/user/mococivilrights?ob=0&amp;feature=results_main</a>).</p>
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		<title>Comment on Ladies and gentlemen: your infinitely cunning Democratic Party by Nell</title>
		<link>http://newsrackblog.com/2012/03/14/ladies-and-gentlemen-your-infinitely-cunning-democratic-party/#comment-11986</link>
		<dc:creator>Nell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Mar 2012 22:17:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The more I think about this the more it burns my bacon.  The health care fight was only _three years ago_ and they think they can pull this "who you gonna believe, me or your lying eyes" b.s.

*Some* elected Democrats wanted Medicare for all, that's true: Dennis Kucinich, and maybe about ten other House members did any fighting at all for single payer. But elected "Democrats" as a whole and the organizations that mobilized actual Democrats for the campaign stayed in the veal pen, where the (imaginary) public option was projected as the most progressive demand possible.  

The whole thing played out as I glumly &lt;a href="http://alovelypromise.blogspot.com/2008/09/prepare-to-dare-or-prepare-to-despair.html" rel="nofollow"&gt;predicted&lt;/a&gt;.  Next time I'm in Cassandra mode I'll also include this kind of memory-washing that official Democratic Party types like Van Hollen are sent out to do in election season.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The more I think about this the more it burns my bacon.  The health care fight was only _three years ago_ and they think they can pull this &#8220;who you gonna believe, me or your lying eyes&#8221; b.s.</p>
<p>*Some* elected Democrats wanted Medicare for all, that&#8217;s true: Dennis Kucinich, and maybe about ten other House members did any fighting at all for single payer. But elected &#8220;Democrats&#8221; as a whole and the organizations that mobilized actual Democrats for the campaign stayed in the veal pen, where the (imaginary) public option was projected as the most progressive demand possible.  </p>
<p>The whole thing played out as I glumly <a href="http://alovelypromise.blogspot.com/2008/09/prepare-to-dare-or-prepare-to-despair.html" rel="nofollow">predicted</a>.  Next time I&#8217;m in Cassandra mode I&#8217;ll also include this kind of memory-washing that official Democratic Party types like Van Hollen are sent out to do in election season.</p>
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		<title>Comment on A city&#8217;s &#8216;city issue&#8217; issue by Thomas Nephew</title>
		<link>http://newsrackblog.com/2012/03/11/a-citys-city-issue-issue/#comment-11973</link>
		<dc:creator>Thomas Nephew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Mar 2012 03:10:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the reply, Seth. I now see the "misgivings" email you sent to PEN (our neighborhood listserv) on 2/5/11, the day before the City Council hearing, titled "City-council topics, February 6 2012." I missed it at the time because (I confess) I don't read every email on PEN. The short notice, an understandably plain title and the lack of response on that particular listserv combined to bury an important topic in what looked like a routine email.

I don't mean to suggest a single February council decision made in good faith requires some sort of 'accountability moment,' even though I disagree with that decision. I'd much rather find some common ground about this issue with you.

I get that you, Councilmember Male, and the whole Council are elected to focus on and want to focus on -- allow me to reformulate -- community-related issues. I'd suggest that the impeachment resolution you supported in 2007 was in fact "community-related" even though it clearly wasn't a "city issue." It was community-related because those of us working for it proved, by signature gathering, by speaking at council sessions, and other means that there was a lot of community support for the resolution.

I think you and the Council are or would be right to require some kind of demonstration that a non-city-issue resolution you're asked to consider has community relevance, community backing, or both, and I applaud your instinct to set some kind of ground rules. In your view, that didn't happen to an adequate extent with the Citizens United resolution; I respect that judgment though I disagree with it. Going forward, though, I'd like to suggest that you might set the bar a little differently than you have so far, by adopting 'community-related' yardstick instead of a 'city issue' one. That way the community can expect that its non-city issue preferences might, from time to time and with work, be acknowledged and reflected by Council resolutions.
  
&lt;em&gt;[I've posted substantially the same comment at Seth's blog]&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the reply, Seth. I now see the &#8220;misgivings&#8221; email you sent to PEN (our neighborhood listserv) on 2/5/11, the day before the City Council hearing, titled &#8220;City-council topics, February 6 2012.&#8221; I missed it at the time because (I confess) I don&#8217;t read every email on PEN. The short notice, an understandably plain title and the lack of response on that particular listserv combined to bury an important topic in what looked like a routine email.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t mean to suggest a single February council decision made in good faith requires some sort of &#8216;accountability moment,&#8217; even though I disagree with that decision. I&#8217;d much rather find some common ground about this issue with you.</p>
<p>I get that you, Councilmember Male, and the whole Council are elected to focus on and want to focus on &#8212; allow me to reformulate &#8212; community-related issues. I&#8217;d suggest that the impeachment resolution you supported in 2007 was in fact &#8220;community-related&#8221; even though it clearly wasn&#8217;t a &#8220;city issue.&#8221; It was community-related because those of us working for it proved, by signature gathering, by speaking at council sessions, and other means that there was a lot of community support for the resolution.</p>
<p>I think you and the Council are or would be right to require some kind of demonstration that a non-city-issue resolution you&#8217;re asked to consider has community relevance, community backing, or both, and I applaud your instinct to set some kind of ground rules. In your view, that didn&#8217;t happen to an adequate extent with the Citizens United resolution; I respect that judgment though I disagree with it. Going forward, though, I&#8217;d like to suggest that you might set the bar a little differently than you have so far, by adopting &#8216;community-related&#8217; yardstick instead of a &#8216;city issue&#8217; one. That way the community can expect that its non-city issue preferences might, from time to time and with work, be acknowledged and reflected by Council resolutions.</p>
<p><em>[I've posted substantially the same comment at Seth's blog]</em></p>
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		<title>Comment on A city&#8217;s &#8216;city issue&#8217; issue by Seth Grimes</title>
		<link>http://newsrackblog.com/2012/03/11/a-citys-city-issue-issue/#comment-11964</link>
		<dc:creator>Seth Grimes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Mar 2012 19:41:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thomas (&#38; readers), I've posted my response: http://sethgrimes.blogspot.com/2012/03/should-takoma-park-city-council-take-up.html

Seth, http://twitter.com/takomaseth</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thomas (&amp; readers), I&#8217;ve posted my response: <a href="http://sethgrimes.blogspot.com/2012/03/should-takoma-park-city-council-take-up.html" rel="nofollow">http://sethgrimes.blogspot.com/2012/03/should-takoma-park-city-council-take-up.html</a></p>
<p>Seth, <a href="http://twitter.com/takomaseth" rel="nofollow">http://twitter.com/takomaseth</a></p>
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		<title>Comment on On fascism by newsrackblog.com &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Thinking about free speech, bad speech, and more speech</title>
		<link>http://newsrackblog.com/2004/12/10/on-fascism/#comment-11951</link>
		<dc:creator>newsrackblog.com &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Thinking about free speech, bad speech, and more speech</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Mar 2012 03:24:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...]  I think what happened to the Dixie Chicks was unjustified and even a demonstration of a &#8220;fascist impulse.&#8221; But I&#8217;m for free speech &#8212; not consequence-free speech; while a law against [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...]  I think what happened to the Dixie Chicks was unjustified and even a demonstration of a &#8220;fascist impulse.&#8221; But I&#8217;m for free speech &#8212; not consequence-free speech; while a law against [...]</p>
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		<title>Comment on How&#8217;s that lesser evil thing working out? by Joe Blunt</title>
		<link>http://newsrackblog.com/2012/01/12/hows-that-lesser-evil-thing-working-out/#comment-11850</link>
		<dc:creator>Joe Blunt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Jan 2012 20:37:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We are faced with a multi generational struggle for greater purity within the Democratic party.  The party platform voted on in state caucuses is far more representative of the views of the base and yet the 'pros' do a lousy job of representing the platform.

The GOP was in a similar situation in the early to mid 70s and it might be argued that things started to change for them with the emergence of an more extreme wing in their party and a media that represented these extremes.  

Maybe we need extreme left liberals getting more media exposure.  I'm thinking about talking heads further to the left from Rachel Maddow, Ed Schultz, Thom Hartmann and their ilk.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We are faced with a multi generational struggle for greater purity within the Democratic party.  The party platform voted on in state caucuses is far more representative of the views of the base and yet the &#8216;pros&#8217; do a lousy job of representing the platform.</p>
<p>The GOP was in a similar situation in the early to mid 70s and it might be argued that things started to change for them with the emergence of an more extreme wing in their party and a media that represented these extremes.  </p>
<p>Maybe we need extreme left liberals getting more media exposure.  I&#8217;m thinking about talking heads further to the left from Rachel Maddow, Ed Schultz, Thom Hartmann and their ilk.</p>
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		<title>Comment on National Popular Vote vs. fixing the electoral college by Thomas Ray Worley</title>
		<link>http://newsrackblog.com/2007/06/08/national-popular-vote-vs-fixing-the-electoral-college/#comment-11836</link>
		<dc:creator>Thomas Ray Worley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jan 2012 02:53:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Small states will never vote for an amendment that takes away their disproportionate weight.  Maryland's compact with other states is the only way a change will come about.

One problem with national popular vote that an electoral college system does eliminate is ballot-stuffing by some states.  If your state stuffs the ballot boxes with many more "votes" than actual, national popular vote gives that state credit for its criminal act.  A system where the state's weight is proportional to population erases this problem.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Small states will never vote for an amendment that takes away their disproportionate weight.  Maryland&#8217;s compact with other states is the only way a change will come about.</p>
<p>One problem with national popular vote that an electoral college system does eliminate is ballot-stuffing by some states.  If your state stuffs the ballot boxes with many more &#8220;votes&#8221; than actual, national popular vote gives that state credit for its criminal act.  A system where the state&#8217;s weight is proportional to population erases this problem.</p>
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		<title>Comment on County Council&#8217;s retreat loses respect &#8212; and Busboys by Dan</title>
		<link>http://newsrackblog.com/2011/10/10/county-councils-retreat-loses-respect-and-busboys/#comment-11685</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Nov 2011 05:54:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is why people do not trust governments. They are willing to trade today and their re-election for tomorrow's future. This is a great example of government gone wrong.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is why people do not trust governments. They are willing to trade today and their re-election for tomorrow&#8217;s future. This is a great example of government gone wrong.</p>
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		<title>Comment on From sundown towns to a midnight county by Thomas Nephew</title>
		<link>http://newsrackblog.com/2011/10/24/from-sundown-towns-to-a-midnight-county/#comment-11670</link>
		<dc:creator>Thomas Nephew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Nov 2011 01:48:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That's what I think too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s what I think too.</p>
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		<title>Comment on From sundown towns to a midnight county by Bruce Godfrey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bruce Godfrey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Oct 2011 22:48:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I see no reason why the ordinary jurisprudence of trespass, disorderly conduct, disturbing the peace, assault, resisting arrest and local noise ordinances is insufficient to maintain public order.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I see no reason why the ordinary jurisprudence of trespass, disorderly conduct, disturbing the peace, assault, resisting arrest and local noise ordinances is insufficient to maintain public order.</p>
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