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	<title>Comments on: Rice: &#8220;If it was authorized by the President, it did not violate our obligations&#8221;</title>
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		<title>By: Thomas Nephew</title>
		<link>http://newsrackblog.com/2009/05/01/rice-if-it-was-authorized-by-the-president-it-did-not-violate-our-obligations/#comment-5288</link>
		<dc:creator>Thomas Nephew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 May 2009 20:58:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, I heard about that today.  Misha Lerner for Torture Truth Commission!

Interesting that the kid's teachers had him tone down the question -- he'd &lt;a href="http://www.swamppolitics.com/news/politics/blog/2009/05/condi_rice_waterboarding_eleme.html" rel="nofollow"&gt;wanted&lt;/a&gt; &lt;em&gt;"If you would work for Obama's administration, would you push for torture?"&lt;/em&gt; and had to dial it down to asking her about &lt;em&gt;"the things President Obama's administration was saying about the methods the Bush administration had used to get information from detainees."&lt;/em&gt;  More at the &lt;a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/05/03/AR2009050301739.html?wprss=rss_politics" rel="nofollow"&gt;Post&lt;/a&gt;, which reports the kid's introduction to 21st century American "what the he11 just happened here?" politics was completed by Rice putting her arm around him and posing for the cameras.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, I heard about that today.  Misha Lerner for Torture Truth Commission!</p>
<p>Interesting that the kid&#8217;s teachers had him tone down the question &#8212; he&#8217;d <a href="http://www.swamppolitics.com/news/politics/blog/2009/05/condi_rice_waterboarding_eleme.html" rel="nofollow">wanted</a> <em>&#8220;If you would work for Obama&#8217;s administration, would you push for torture?&#8221;</em> and had to dial it down to asking her about <em>&#8220;the things President Obama&#8217;s administration was saying about the methods the Bush administration had used to get information from detainees.&#8221;</em>  More at the <a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/05/03/AR2009050301739.html?wprss=rss_politics" rel="nofollow">Post</a>, which reports the kid&#8217;s introduction to 21st century American &#8220;what the he11 just happened here?&#8221; politics was completed by Rice putting her arm around him and posing for the cameras.</p>
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		<title>By: mickarran</title>
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		<dc:creator>mickarran</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 May 2009 20:42:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Apparently, a couple of days later Condi was questioned by &lt;i&gt;4th graders&lt;/i&gt; and didn't do any better with them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Apparently, a couple of days later Condi was questioned by <i>4th graders</i> and didn&#8217;t do any better with them.</p>
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		<title>By: Thomas Nephew</title>
		<link>http://newsrackblog.com/2009/05/01/rice-if-it-was-authorized-by-the-president-it-did-not-violate-our-obligations/#comment-5271</link>
		<dc:creator>Thomas Nephew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 May 2009 16:17:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sven Scholz (see above) reminds me of the concept of "&lt;a href="http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schreibtischt%C3%A4ter" rel="nofollow"&gt;Schreibtischtaeter&lt;/a&gt;" -- "desk perpetrator" -- that is, "someone who uses state power structures to have a crime carried out by another person."  German history and justice is all too familiar with the idea; Americans are all too ready to believe themselves immune to or removed from the possibility.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sven Scholz (see above) reminds me of the concept of &#8220;<a href="http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schreibtischt%C3%A4ter" rel="nofollow">Schreibtischtaeter</a>&#8221; &#8212; &#8220;desk perpetrator&#8221; &#8212; that is, &#8220;someone who uses state power structures to have a crime carried out by another person.&#8221;  German history and justice is all too familiar with the idea; Americans are all too ready to believe themselves immune to or removed from the possibility.</p>
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		<title>By: sven scholz - sagichdoch? &#187; Schreibtischtäter</title>
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		<dc:creator>sven scholz - sagichdoch? &#187; Schreibtischtäter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 May 2009 07:09:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Die interessanten Teile, auch in Hinblick auf Condies &#8220;Vergesslichkeit&#8221; gegenüber Aussagen des Roten Kreuzes (PDF) und ihrer Auslegung, wer bei ihr so alles die OSCE repräsentieren darf, hat Thomas hier nochmal schriftlich (englisch), aber weil ich oben etwas vom &#8220;seltsamen Geschichtsverständnis&#8221; schrob will ich diese Perle der Rice&#8217;schen Historiendeutung noch schnell nachliefern: 1ST QUESTIONER [3:30]: …even in World War II, as we faced Nazi Germany, probably the greatest threat that America has ever faced, even then… RICE [3:37]: With all due respect, Nazi Germany never attacked the homeland of the United States. 1ST QUESTIONER [3:44]: They bombed our allies. RICE [3:46]: Just a second. Three thousand Americans died in the Twin Towers and in the Pentagon. 1ST QUESTIONER [3:52]: Five hundred thousand died in World War II, and yet we did not torture the prisoners of war. [&#8230;] [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Die interessanten Teile, auch in Hinblick auf Condies &#8220;Vergesslichkeit&#8221; gegenüber Aussagen des Roten Kreuzes (PDF) und ihrer Auslegung, wer bei ihr so alles die OSCE repräsentieren darf, hat Thomas hier nochmal schriftlich (englisch), aber weil ich oben etwas vom &#8220;seltsamen Geschichtsverständnis&#8221; schrob will ich diese Perle der Rice&#8217;schen Historiendeutung noch schnell nachliefern: 1ST QUESTIONER [3:30]: …even in World War II, as we faced Nazi Germany, probably the greatest threat that America has ever faced, even then… RICE [3:37]: With all due respect, Nazi Germany never attacked the homeland of the United States. 1ST QUESTIONER [3:44]: They bombed our allies. RICE [3:46]: Just a second. Three thousand Americans died in the Twin Towers and in the Pentagon. 1ST QUESTIONER [3:52]: Five hundred thousand died in World War II, and yet we did not torture the prisoners of war. [&#8230;] [...]</p>
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