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	<title>Comments on: How not to pay for a transportation system</title>
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	<description>a citizen's journal by Thomas Nephew</description>
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		<title>By: David Fleck</title>
		<link>http://newsrackblog.com/2009/02/23/how-not-to-pay-for-a-transportation-system/#comment-4218</link>
		<dc:creator>David Fleck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Mar 2009 11:56:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thomas- as it happens, I count both Oregon and the D.C. area (Rockville/Bethesda) as places I used to live. 

Maybe there's less psychological resistance to two smaller taxes than to one bigger tax. I don't think it would make a difference to me, but then there are a lot of things most people don't agree with me on.

Re: Ranting Kid &#8211; thanks; I'll pass along your compliments. Go over and argue with her if you get a chance. It'll help sharpen her brain.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thomas- as it happens, I count both Oregon and the D.C. area (Rockville/Bethesda) as places I used to live. </p>
<p>Maybe there&#8217;s less psychological resistance to two smaller taxes than to one bigger tax. I don&#8217;t think it would make a difference to me, but then there are a lot of things most people don&#8217;t agree with me on.</p>
<p>Re: Ranting Kid &ndash; thanks; I&#8217;ll pass along your compliments. Go over and argue with her if you get a chance. It&#8217;ll help sharpen her brain.</p>
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		<title>By: Thomas Nephew</title>
		<link>http://newsrackblog.com/2009/02/23/how-not-to-pay-for-a-transportation-system/#comment-4207</link>
		<dc:creator>Thomas Nephew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Mar 2009 15:15:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi David!  Didn't know (or maybe I forgot) that you used to live here in the DC area.  

I agree that it's a Rube Goldberg scheme; sometimes I wonder if that's the attraction -- another system to sell, another system to manage.  A question that also occurs to me is why (or if) Oregon voters would suddenly get all relaxed and docile about &lt;i&gt;this&lt;/i&gt; tax vs. a gas tax.  With a gas tax, at least your movements remain opaque to the government; with a VMT tax they don't; the total amount you're likely to be taxed, on average and in the long run, the same amount either way -- some function of (a) what you'll put up with and (b) what is needed to keep roads functional.  

I suppose the key points for Gov. Kulongoski et al above are (a) that 75-99% of people don't think "long run" and (b) they probably still don't care very much about the possibility of government surveillance, either because they just don't care, or because they buy the "look Ma, nothing in the on-board device" red herring.

PS: congrats on your "&lt;a href="http://therantingkid.blogspot.com/" rel="nofollow"&gt;Ranting Kid&lt;/a&gt;"!  As we both know, what the world needs is more opinionated bloggers; you and Moira have done your part.  Seriously, though, it's nice to see that there are kids who care about the world and issues around them... regardless of whether I agree with all of what they say.  (So help me God.) Keep it up, RK.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi David!  Didn&#8217;t know (or maybe I forgot) that you used to live here in the DC area.  </p>
<p>I agree that it&#8217;s a Rube Goldberg scheme; sometimes I wonder if that&#8217;s the attraction &#8212; another system to sell, another system to manage.  A question that also occurs to me is why (or if) Oregon voters would suddenly get all relaxed and docile about <i>this</i> tax vs. a gas tax.  With a gas tax, at least your movements remain opaque to the government; with a VMT tax they don&#8217;t; the total amount you&#8217;re likely to be taxed, on average and in the long run, the same amount either way &#8212; some function of (a) what you&#8217;ll put up with and (b) what is needed to keep roads functional.  </p>
<p>I suppose the key points for Gov. Kulongoski et al above are (a) that 75-99% of people don&#8217;t think &#8220;long run&#8221; and (b) they probably still don&#8217;t care very much about the possibility of government surveillance, either because they just don&#8217;t care, or because they buy the &#8220;look Ma, nothing in the on-board device&#8221; red herring.</p>
<p>PS: congrats on your &#8220;<a href="http://therantingkid.blogspot.com/" rel="nofollow">Ranting Kid</a>&#8220;!  As we both know, what the world needs is more opinionated bloggers; you and Moira have done your part.  Seriously, though, it&#8217;s nice to see that there are kids who care about the world and issues around them&#8230; regardless of whether I agree with all of what they say.  (So help me God.) Keep it up, RK.</p>
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		<title>By: David Fleck</title>
		<link>http://newsrackblog.com/2009/02/23/how-not-to-pay-for-a-transportation-system/#comment-4206</link>
		<dc:creator>David Fleck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Mar 2009 11:54:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Most of the comments on the various articles you've linked to raise the same (unanswered) questions that occur to me: Why on earth would you replace a simple, low-tech scheme (taxing gasoline purchases) with a byzantine, Rube Goldberg-esque surrogate (tracking your mileage, and where you've been so we can refund your out-of-state driving)? Why replace a tax that encourages fuel conservation and efficient vehicles with one that penalizes those things? Why not just raise the damned gasoline tax, if it's not adequate to fund road maintenance?

Sometimes I grow alarmed at the state of affairs in my former place of residence.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Most of the comments on the various articles you&#8217;ve linked to raise the same (unanswered) questions that occur to me: Why on earth would you replace a simple, low-tech scheme (taxing gasoline purchases) with a byzantine, Rube Goldberg-esque surrogate (tracking your mileage, and where you&#8217;ve been so we can refund your out-of-state driving)? Why replace a tax that encourages fuel conservation and efficient vehicles with one that penalizes those things? Why not just raise the damned gasoline tax, if it&#8217;s not adequate to fund road maintenance?</p>
<p>Sometimes I grow alarmed at the state of affairs in my former place of residence.</p>
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		<title>By: Thomas Nephew</title>
		<link>http://newsrackblog.com/2009/02/23/how-not-to-pay-for-a-transportation-system/#comment-4092</link>
		<dc:creator>Thomas Nephew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Mar 2009 16:33:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for your comment.  I don't ordinarily let comments through with links back to a business, and nearly put this one on the spam pile.  But in this case your comment was on point, and the business ("Cash for Clunkers") is arguably related to the post topic -- taking old cars off the highways is one way of improving the overall MPG and (all else remaining equal) reducing pollution.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for your comment.  I don&#8217;t ordinarily let comments through with links back to a business, and nearly put this one on the spam pile.  But in this case your comment was on point, and the business (&#8221;Cash for Clunkers&#8221;) is arguably related to the post topic &#8212; taking old cars off the highways is one way of improving the overall MPG and (all else remaining equal) reducing pollution.</p>
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		<title>By: Imee</title>
		<link>http://newsrackblog.com/2009/02/23/how-not-to-pay-for-a-transportation-system/#comment-4081</link>
		<dc:creator>Imee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Mar 2009 07:30:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'm one of those who believe that the Obama administration was indeed hasty in rejecting the VMT tax idea. I expected more from them, thinking they were more open-minded than this. I'm not 100% agreeing on VMT taxes but I think it has promise, I really do.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m one of those who believe that the Obama administration was indeed hasty in rejecting the VMT tax idea. I expected more from them, thinking they were more open-minded than this. I&#8217;m not 100% agreeing on VMT taxes but I think it has promise, I really do.</p>
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